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Johnny



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PostPosted: Tue Jun 01, 2010 10:53 pm    Post subject: OT: SFU Coach?? Reply with quote

Any ideas who applied, as the position closed yesterday. Any possible candidates?
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Courtside



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PostPosted: Wed Jun 02, 2010 2:20 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

No idea...but there are some BC coaching candidates with possibilities
Randy Knorr
Novel Thomas
Gord Thatcher.
Paul Eberhart
to name a few..
But I'm betting that they grab a D2 assistant from the league their in. Western Washington University in Bellingham would be a fertile ground to mine for coaching poosibilities.
They are going to need a guy who can fill out a depleted roster pretty quickly. Better get a 5 year guaranteed deal. Rebuilding is the name of the game on the hill.
Alums like Jay Triano are emerging as helpful resources. Nice to see.
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Bigsmoke



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PostPosted: Wed Jun 02, 2010 2:52 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Courtside wrote:
Rebuilding is the name of the game on the Hill.


Your clue as to who has been left off your list.

Nohr has it too good at UBC and likely wouldn't leave until at least Coach K calls it a day at X.
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Courtside



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PostPosted: Wed Jun 02, 2010 3:10 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Ah....Virgil Hill....OF COURSE...
and i can never spell randy's last name
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blueandgold



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PostPosted: Wed Jun 02, 2010 7:18 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Here are some names:
1. Rich Chambers
2. Rich Goulet
3. Chambers and Goulet
4. Joackims from Saskabush
5. Bruce Enns
6. Barnaby Craddock
7. Alex Devlin
8. Wally Buono
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Gonzo12



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PostPosted: Wed Jun 02, 2010 9:24 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I have to think they would go with a younger guy as it will take some patience while they adjust to life in Division 2. I cant Chambers or Goulet, nor can I see Nohr because he does have it good at UBC and Thatcher because he has kind of fallen off the face of the earth here at UVIC and they have exactly been great lately. I could see someone like Thatcher up at a place like UNBC.

Just my 2 cents
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Courtside



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PostPosted: Wed Jun 02, 2010 9:54 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

yeah i agree Nohr isnt going anywhere. I like Thatcher as a coach ...not sure if hes in the mix anywhere or not but he's solid from what I've seen and heard. did UNBC replace Raimbault yet? Count on Jordan Yu up there, i'm thinking.
But bigsmoke's tip of Virgil Hill is a possibility for sure. Local. CIS head coaching experience at Laurentian and alum. Could be if he wants to get back into the fray.
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bleachers



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PostPosted: Thu Jun 03, 2010 10:20 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Shouldn't this conversation be on the NCAA portion of this website? Alderson-Broaddus College of the West Virginia Athletic Conference (NCAA Div. II) might also be looking for a new head coach but what has that got to do with the CIS? (Some might even wonder what that has to do with the NCAA or anything for that matter but that's another question). I guess it will take a year or two until we all completely forget about SFU as far as the CIS goes.
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blueandgold



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PostPosted: Thu Jun 03, 2010 9:36 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Tough to attract someone when you will play games against big names like St. Martin's college , and Chico State??!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Who will come to watch Williamette College from whoknowswhere?
-sad and dumb decision by SFU
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bballfan33



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PostPosted: Thu Jun 03, 2010 10:40 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I wonder if it will be sad when UBC follows them......
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Jabog



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PostPosted: Thu Jun 03, 2010 10:41 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

It will be interesting to see how it works out. The whole thing started when Phillips from UBC wanted to go NCAA. SFU is now in a much better basketball league. The GNAC is a tough league and if you think it will be much worse playing in gyms like Seattle Pacific, Western Washington, University of Alaska Anchorage, University of Alaska Fairbanks, Central Washington University, Montana State Billings and Western Oregon University than Brandon , Lethbridge, Calgary, Kamloops, Kelowna, Regina, Calgary, Edmonton and Saskatoon have at it.
SFU attracted a lot of the best players in the country when it was in the NAIA. It's pretty much the same league they will be entering. UBC will be deciding later this year and odds are they will follow. UBC potentially is a NCAA div 1 school but they will need to go through this process before that will happen. SFU has their work cut out with both teams men's and Women's teams. It will be fun to watch and nice to have a choice especially when UBC joins them in 2011/12.
Butler is a little school in Indy. Ever hear of it?
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mrwilson



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PostPosted: Thu Jun 03, 2010 11:15 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I'm with Jabog here. Where is this venom coming from towards SFU? There are schools lined up and waiting to get into the CIS so why not wish them well? Their glory years were NAIA when they had players move on to the national team so why wouldn't they want to try and recapture that? UBC had 5 games this year home and road where less than 400 people showed up and they were the biggest draw in the league. Yup, that's big time basketball.
I was wondering if anyone was going to bring up the fact that UBC was front and center when talk of splitting came up. Then when it was time to pull the trigger they choked which happens a lil bit over there. But all needling aside U of A and U of C were there too. Has anyone read the latest CIS blog talking about the cis agm? Quite a bit in there about the scholarship stalemate. Can west and others want more than we have now and OUA wants less which is miles apart in theory, so do you sit and *itch or make a move? People always laugh at those who try to do something different that isn't safe, if that's the way everyone lived their life can you imagine how boring things would be? We'd still have 2 hand set shots.

Guys are constantly on here talking about things wrong with the cis and problems and then comparing what is done in the ncaa. So why burn SFU at the stake?

Something that I don't think that has been brought up is that there is a moratorium on NCAA DI membership. So maybe that's why UBC backed off but the disgust that SFU would choose DII over cis is misplaced as they couldn't go DI. Also coming out and saying our ultimate goal is DI is bad for business with the gnac especially since they fast tracked sfu into the conference. Going from cis to DI would be a bad move. I think they would be making rules violations every time they turned around and every sport would get embarrassed for a good period. As it is men's basketball and football will get trampled and I think they have chance to compete in most other sports.

I really think that if they are successful and the athletes that normally go to the states start going to sfu that that might be the best and biggest push for scholarship change in the cis.

My final thought is that Chico California is nicer with better weather than about 98% of cis destinations, I've been there have you?
If offered a full scholarship to Chico State or a tuition waiver to Lethbridge where after 5 years my student loan might total $50k then I guess I'd be a Wildcat.
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pistol pete



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PostPosted: Thu Jun 03, 2010 11:28 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Jabog wrote:
It will be interesting to see how it works out. The whole thing started when Phillips from UBC wanted to go NCAA.

SFU attracted a lot of the best players in the country when it was in the NAIA. It's pretty much the same league they will be entering.


I'm not sure anything UBC did prompted SFU to join the NCAA.
I was always under the impression SFU was a reluctant member of the CIS anyway.
They had always competed in the NAIA from the school's inception until the end of the 1990's when
the leagues they competed in basically dissolved.
They had little choice but to join the CIS because those former NAIA teams you mentioned went D2
but SFU could not follow them because the NCAA constitution forbade a non American school from membership.
It's taken Simon Fraser a decade to overturn that rule and finally gain entry.
If there were no hurdles for Simon Fraser to join NCAA D2 in the first place, SFU would not have entered the CIS.
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bleachers



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PostPosted: Fri Jun 04, 2010 12:12 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Discussions over such things as the wisdom of moving to the NCAA vs staying in the CIS and NCAA scholarships vs CIS scholarships (or lack thereof) are interesting conversations and appropriate, in my view, to this section of CHT.

I think the vast majority of CIS supports are sad to see SFU go but are happy to wish them well in their future endeavours. It would be nice, some day, to see them win the NCAA Div. II title.

However, I hope I don't open up the CIS section of the board next year to find a headline "SFU Blows Lead to Alaska". I would expect to find such a discussion under the NCAA banner. In the same vein, any interest in who will be the new head coach of SFU (the starting subject of this thread) is simply a hangover from SFU's days in the CIS. From a CIS point of view, who cares? SFU have moved on. So be it.
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blueandgold



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PostPosted: Fri Jun 04, 2010 1:31 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

It would be interesting to compare the travel costs for SFU after this coming season between their costs travelling to compete in CIS league games vs. NCAA Div. 2 games.
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